Shared TLD Daily Digest, Nov 01, 1996

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Date: 31 Oct 1996 00:12:57 -0800
From: "Rick H. Wesson" 
Subject: Re: Regestry Management (was: Re:
http://www.newdom.com/register/structures/cgi.html)

On Oct 30, 10:06pm, Richard J. Sexton wrote:
> Subject: Re: Regestry Management (was: Re: http://www.newdom.com/register/
> At 06:37 PM 10/30/96 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >We should agree on a max length for a SLD, that being:
> >   a) 1 < SLD < 26  - the InterNic Limit
> >   b) 1 < SLD < 63  - Bind's Limit.
> >   c) something else.
>
> Off the top of my head I'd say b) or "32".

I'd say 26 just so everything is the same.

> I never understood 26. I assume it was reached at by
> some ludicrous process akin to how ATM cell size was derived
> (Europe wanted 64 octets; good for video, the US wanted
> 32, good for voice, so they compromised on 48)
>
> >also should we also reserve all of the 1 letter SLDs?

Again I'd would reserve them just to keep the status quo.
There might be a good use for them one day.

- -Rick

> Good question.
>
> I notice about 5 peopel manages to snag single letter
> domain names before IANA stepped in and reserevd the rest.
>
> I can't in all honesty thing of a good reason to,
> other than what Bruce Becker said once: "The DNS
> is the worlds most underutilized decentralized database,
> only TPC.INT begins to scratch the surface of what you
> can do with it.
>
> My position is I'l go with the flow on this issue, I see
> merit in both sides to this argument.
>
>
> --
>                       Debate, process, and accountability.
>
>
>
>-- End of excerpt from Richard J. Sexton



- -- 
Rick H. Wesson


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Date: 31 Oct 1996 07:15:14 -0800
From: ejw@globecomm.net
Subject: Re: Registry Database Design

At 07:26 PM 10/30/96 -0800, you wrote:
>If you are going to be using CGI on your webserver, install FastCGI from
>http://www.fastcgi.com to make sure you don't suffer any performance
>penalty under heavy loads. Existing CGI scripts convert with about two
>lines of code and FastCGI makes it a snap to run the CGI scripts on a
>machine separate from the WWW server.

you have obviously never used fastcgi michael.  fastcgi is great for some
applications, like emailin forms, but is certainly not "two lines of code"
when you attempt to distribute database applications, or multithread, or
use the popular cgi libraries, or ...

- --EW.



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Date: 31 Oct 1996 09:31:35 -0800
From: Michael Dillon 
Subject: Re: Regestry Management (was: Re:  
http://www.newdom.com/register/structures/cgi.html)

On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Vince Wolodkin wrote:

> While string lengths can be rendered irrelevant by careful programming,
> a more pertitent question may be whether or not strings should be
> limited for other reasons.  The domain name, for example, is apparently
> limited at 63 characters in some RFC.  Is this the WHOLE domain name or
> just the SLD and TLD?  Is the limit set at 63 because of BIND
> limitations or just common sense and decency about overpoweringly long
> domain names?

> compatibility between registries.  If unspecified, you leave open the
> possibility of compatibility problems.

I agree with this. If you consider that the TLD could be three to five
characters long that leaves a minimum of twenty characters for the SLD
portion. Twenty characters is long enough for most any word in most any
language. If we also encourage people to use 3LD's for longer names rather
than bens-furniture-shoppe.com or bensfurnitureshoppe.com they would
use something like bens.furniture.shoppe.alt

In order to facilitate the use of 3LD's and 4LD's like this I would urge
every registry to operate one TLD in which the registry reserves *EVERY*
SLD for its own use and only registers at the 3LD level. In addition I
would urge the registries to provide sample BIND configuration files for
both SLD registrations and 3LD registrations showing how to configure
greater numbers of levels. I.e. if Ben's were to register SHOPPE.WEB
generate a sample BIND config that shows how to do
bens.furniture.shoppe.web

Even the NT ports support traditional BIND config files.

I suggest that the limit for the TLD plus dot plus SLD remain at 26 and
that customers be urged to limit the total length of their host names
for full compatibility with other software. 

Michael Dillon                   -               ISP & Internet Consulting
Memra Software Inc.              -                  Fax: +1-604-546-3049
http://www.memra.com             -               E-mail: michael@memra.com



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Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:36:59 -0800
From: "David R. Conrad" 
Subject: Re: Regestry Management (was: Re:
http://www.newdom.com/register/structures/cgi.html) 

Hi,

2 informational nits unrelated to shared-tld:

a) InterNIC uses Ingres

b) You have this reversed:

>(Europe wanted 64 octets; good for video, the US wanted
>32, good for voice, so they compromised on 48)

US wanted the longer cells (to do data), some European countries
(France is usually cited) wanted shorter cells so they wouldn't
have to deploy echo suppressors.

Regards,
- -drc